SvanyaAlien DroneAdmin4297 XPAug-22-2013 1:49 PM
I didn't mind the first one, the second was really bad though.
xeno_alpha_07FacehuggerStaff211 XPAug-22-2013 2:36 PM
Oh god yes the second was bad indeed. Only watched it once and once was enough.
shambsAlien EggMember40 XPAug-22-2013 4:32 PM
Well, the idea seems to work very well in comics and video games, but unfortunately not very well in the movies.
In my case I just hate the second, the first wasbad, but not so bad to hate it.
One thing I don't like is the Animal concept applied to the xenomorph, as mere cannon fodder. Also choose to Earth as the setting was a bad idea, and probably the whole issue of the ancient astronauts is unnecessary.
But anyway I wonder if it depends on the direction, and perhaps in this case a film of AVP could be much better, with a better director in charge.
xeno_alpha_07FacehuggerStaff211 XPAug-22-2013 4:57 PM
[quote][i]Well, the idea seems to work very well in comics and video games, but unfortunately not very well in the movies.[/i][/quote]
I feel the same way to.
[quote][i]One thing I don't like is the Animal concept applied to the xenomorph, as mere cannon fodder. Also choose to Earth as the setting was a bad idea, and probably the whole issue of the ancient astronauts is unnecessary.[/i]
[i]But anyway I wonder if it depends on the direction, and perhaps in this case a film of AVP could be much better, with a better director in charge[/i].[/quote]
I also hated the idea and the conflict being set on earth as well as the ancient pyramid concept. I also hate the look of both the Alien and Predators in both movies. Always hated the Alien re-design since Alien Resurrection. The Predators in the first film also look retarded:
cuponator3000Young BloodMember838 XPAug-22-2013 8:49 PM
The first one was okay, the second was absolutely terrible!!! I also disagree with the earth setting. I feel that both movies were a little lazy with the creatures. the xenos were just easy to kill terrible looking serpents and the Predators were just missing something. I really feel like a successful avp movie could be made one day or the two we have could have been great, but it just hasn't worked out so far I guess
junglepredatorAlien EggMember0 XPAug-22-2013 10:26 PM
I think AvP has a good origin story, but why three predators. does not fit. Also think it would have benefited from the Predat6or home world scene from AvPR. I think AvPR was a decent movie. wrong ending though.
Nostromo9468Alien EggMember0 XPAug-22-2013 10:48 PM
The first one had an endearing campiness to it that I thought was kinda fun. Though I was half expecting the Predator and the chick to make out by the end. Also the initial face to face followed by the hand-to-hand fight was pretty cool.
AVPR was wretched. More like a high budget fan-film produced by some who had only watched Aliens and the last 25 minutes of each Predator movie.
I wish they would have just done a movie adaption of the book Aliens Vs Predator: Prey.
xeno_alpha_07FacehuggerStaff211 XPAug-23-2013 5:47 AM
[quote][i]I think AvP has a good origin story, but why three predators. does not fit.[/i][/quote]
There was to be five Predators originally.
LoneAlien DroneMember2674 XPAug-23-2013 3:18 PM
Our favourite film beasties, brought together on screen, should have been awesome!
Alas, it wasn't to be. I was so disappointed by AvP. It was an insult to Giger, turning his creation into easily squashed bugs! The Preds fared better, but the plot was pretty bad.
AvP Requiem has been wiped from my memory banks!! *shudders*
FeebsAlien EggMember0 XPAug-24-2013 11:59 AM
I'm kinda neutral about them but like all been saying the first one was ok, could see it another time. Fromt he second, maybe only thing that was good was Chet and the aliens :).
I'm more likely keine Lust on them.
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FleshvesselAlien EggMember1 XPAug-25-2013 1:44 PM
Can't stand either. The Xenos were far too easy to kill. (Especially in AVPR)
It would take all day to list everything wrong with these films.
xeno_alpha_07FacehuggerStaff211 XPAug-25-2013 1:48 PM
[quote][i]It would take all day to list everything wrong with these films.[/i][/quote]
I know exactly how you feel.
Nostromo9468Alien EggMember0 XPAug-26-2013 1:26 PM
If I could make a cut of AVP:R that only included the parts I liked it would be about one minute long. Parts included:
-Yutani part at the end
-Predalien and Wolf Predator kill each other
-Wolf Predator throws Alien on ground. Punches it in the face.
oduoduChestburtsterMember1221 XPOct-01-2013 2:42 PM
I love the concept the idea but the movies could have been much more than it was. Don't hate the movies as I think someone would have done it anyway. I can't understand why the avp universe can't exist by itself and keep being explored. But what did people expect from the avp movies anyway ? I never hear anyone actually say what they would have wanted form auch a movie and also:
Who should have directed ? Who should have written the story etc ? Any ideas ?
Anunnaki50Alien EggMember1 XPOct-10-2013 1:15 AM
Didnt like the second one it was so dark you couldnt even tell if an alien was hiding or just a dark blob. The Strauss Bros. did their best but it needed a high class director. The first AVP I agree wasnt that bad but they should've stayed away from the Prometheus idea because they are hunters not civilizers.
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The1PerfectOrganismAlien EggMember0 XPNov-05-2013 2:45 PM
First one was a great camp-fest.
Second was awful.
It could be great, but it needs a few things:
-Good Artistic Designers
-A plot other than kill, an actual goal.
-A good director.
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Crashdown Alien EggMember0 XPNov-14-2013 9:34 AM
Of course I dislike them as well. It's not hard to say that they aren't good movie. Just compare them to the previous movies and you can see what's wrong. Both the Alien and Predator used to be scary monsters in scary movies but AVP and AVPR aren't scary. It's not scary seing monsters fighting each other and it totally isn't scary to see how easy a xenomorph is killed just by stabbing it.
Still AVP looks like an Oscar winner compared to AVPR but here is the thing about the first movie: It has an interesting story, good design, colouring, make up and such, except for the creatures, they look horrible. There also are some good actors but the problem is they don't get much developed, after the half of the movie almost every is dead. Setting the story on Earth also makes the Alien movies pointless but I don't need to talk much about that because AVP belongs in space with colonial marines which weren't in the movie, so a big piece is missing.
Now to AVPR. Well... everything that could get wrong just went wrong in that movie. The lightning is shitty, the effects are shitty, the story is shitty, the characters are shitty and so on. It just was an insult to the Predator and specially to the Alien series. The alien and predator movies wanted us to care about the characters, so you fear for them if they live or die, in AVPR you don't see any character development that makes not caring about them and it doesn't get scary when they die. Even their decisions had a big lack of logic, the only character that seemed smart was that asshole ex boyfriend who suggested to leave the town but in return the others just called him stupid. The xenos were so easy to kill that they never are going to scare me again, it's really not worth to make more Alien movies just because of that mess from AVPR. Same goes for the Predator, he went to earth to save humanity, ok, so now always when I see a Predator I think "Hey look it's creature that tried to save the Earth from the Aliens, he can't be evil". That movie really was the worst thing that could happen to both series.
I don't know how you guys think about Predators which came out after AVPR. I think Predators was pretty decent but it didn't make me fear, I'm sure AVPR is the reason for that.